Shaft tip weights are easiest if you are already pulling the heads. From what I gather is that this shaft is a 125gram shaft which seems heavy but with a 350 Gram head it will keep the Swing weight lower, kind of like counter balanced putters. I'm sure your son will love it ⦠I need to have my putter shaft cut from 35 inches to around 33 inches because its too long. Many professionals have to add lead weight tape to their ⦠I cut down an Odyssey 2 ball 2" and put on a 2 thumb grip (which is heavy). Do you like physically heavy putters or putters that feel heavy? If it's the latter, which is the case for me, then you'll get the opposite effect... Grip and shaft band are in new condition. For example, a 35â³ putter typically comprises a head weight of 330 grams. I switched from the Newport 2 to the Newport 2 Notchback because I liked the heavier weight of the head of the Notchback (as well as the way the no... I had one of my putters made to measure by a club maker (not brave enough to do it myself). If something breaks loose you could get a rattle. Apollo Golf Putter Shaft-Double Bend Right Hand Offset Stepped Steel. 1. level 2. 1) shaft pull, add tip weight to shaft and 2) pour tungsten powder down shaft, put cork down shaft to hold in place. Shortening the putter moves it closer to your eye plane and in our studies changes aim more left. This was a takeoff from a new Bettinardi studio stock 14 to switch down to a shorter carbon shaft. If my 35-inch 2016 Scotty Cameron Newport 2 putter started with 2x10g weights (new) and I can experiment with adding 2x15g, 2x20g, 2x30g or 2x40g weights, will using a 50g putter grip with an additional 50g weight in it (this is how Superstroke does it, so total putter grip weight of 100g) just cancel out the weight I increased in the putter head? If you heel weight the putter and you already turn the face over of your putter too quickly then the problem will get worse. The Series 99 "Anser Style" putter has a maximized face-forward Center of Gravity (CG) engineered to give you a better stroke, better ball roll, better distance control and fewer three putts. Depends on the design of the putter really. JustTrying2BAwesome. That being said if your just trying to raise the total weight of the club, I guess you could. delc said: As you say, cutting an inch or two off the shaft will make almost no difference to the total weight of the putter, but it will significantly reduce its swing weight, probably by about 4 points per inch. Lincolnshire. The model also features multiple shaft bend options to minimize the arcâs amount to aim directly down the target line. This allows you to add or subtract weight. We typically remove damaged bands before new ones are applied and leave only existing bands in place that do not extend too far down the shaft. Adding weight to both ends of the putter will make it heavier (obviously), and a heavier putter will have a high MOI. This will help to engage the bigger muscles in the putting stroke. One way to add weight to a putter and effectively âdeadenâ the feel and to neutralize a putter head that feels too heavy, is to add sand to the putter shaft. If you choose to put weight down the shaft a lot of times epoxied or glued in weights have a tendency of working free from all the banging a round a putter takes while in the bag on a golf cart so after adding the required weight top the weights off with a correct sized cork to keep them in place. Heavier = Adding 10 total grams additional head weight than Standard, which adds 5 swingweight points. I ordered three of each of these weights 20g,16g, and 12g. It could be +0.6" or +1.3" or whatever as it's your choice unlike with the off-the-rack putters that come in one-inch increments. Replace the clubâs shaft. The fix for a putter that has too low a swingweight is pretty easy â put some tungsten powder down the shaft to adjust the weight feel. Quote mac94 Banned 6k Feedback 0 0 1 Total Rating 0% Posted June 25, 2014 There is no magical balance to a putter to be messed up. They are very accurate and dead nuts consistent. Added 20 grams of weight to counter. I'd just buy new weights, a grip and cut it myself. Swingweight is very close now too. Adding weight down the shaft puts all the weight on the very heel side of the head. The club was rendered pretty useless as the head of the putter felt light as a feather. Step 3. For example, a 35â³ putter typically comprises a head weight of 330 grams. I play my putters at around 32" and like a heavier head as well (350-360 grams). I pretty much add my preferred amount of weight using lead plugs.... Otherwise, lead tape is the way to go. A friend is offering me $125 for a Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2 putter . If you choose to put weight down the shaft a lot of times epoxied or glued in weights have a tendency of working free from all the banging a round... Lol. He even managed to save the original grip. This putter felt a little light compared to my current Bettinardi putter. WEIGHT. Than I re-did the epoxy job with 24 hour epoxy (easier to work with and smoother looking) cavity by cavity. You can always put the weight back with lead tape or tungsten powder. Before the weights are glued in, the brass sheet needs to be cut to size. Cutting an inch or so off the butt end of the shaft won't make an awful lot of difference to the total weight of the putter, but will make a significant difference to the swing weight, so you may need to add weight to the head. Suggest you try it as it is after being cut down. Take your clubs to a professional club fitter and have a different type of shaft put in. WEIGHT. If the 50 grams overshoots, you could add weight back to the head. Or, you can go to Golfsmith and ask a club-builder to add as much tungsten powder as ⦠As a result, you must purchase a putter with the appropriate weight. If however you want to change the swingweight of the club so the head "feels" heavier than it currently does, then find a putter grip that is 10-15 grams lighter than what you currently have. The USGA states in Rule 14-3 that âLead tape may be applied to the head or shaft of the club for the purpose of adding weight (see Decisions 4-1/4 and 4-2/0.5)â Hopefully, now you have a better understanding of the benefits of lead ⦠This 3.2 gram weight loss in the shortened shaft is minimal and you can probably ignore it. It is certainly more convenient that using lead tape. Putter shaft: Finally, you can also add it to the sole of the putter well. On 12/7/2021 at 4:55 PM, BDowning said: Currently gaming a G425 3 hybrid with GD AD-DI 85x hybrid shaft. Will be adding a Srixon ZX Utility 2 iron to swap in and out with this club for when the conditions call for it. A thicker Pure Roll insert produces better sound and feel, while 45° grooves increase topspin to help the ball start and stay on its intended line. By this, I think he means that he has crafted into the putter certain performance characteristics with the relationships between putterhead shape and mass, hosel placement or location, and shaft vibrational properties. If you are removing the grip to butt trim or extend the shaft, you can re-use the grip after using this tool. First 20 grams. It takes more muscular effort to maneuver a heavy object that is further away from the hands and body. It will disrupt the natural alignment of your strokes. Which, by the way is a lot of friggin lead tape. #5. Part 2 - Section 1d(ii) of The Equipment Rules published by the USGA and R&A stipulates that a putter club, by definition, must have no more than 10 degrees of loft, and is conforming as long as when the club is in the normal address position the shaft is aligned so that the projection of the straight part of the shaft on to the vertical plane along the intended line of ⦠Can you cut down a belly putter to standard length? They are very accurate and dead nuts consistent. Cutting shorter reduces the swing weight by 2 for every 1//2 inch. I was thinking about going another route and putting Tungsten powder down the shaft and corking it. Do note the head will feel slightly heavier the more you extend the shaft. Most putter makers offer stock options in 34-inch and 35-inch models, and there are some 33-inch putters on the market too. A putter isnât swung with any force so there is no flex in the shaft, meaning the weight of the shaft comes down to personal feel and a little bit of performance, which we will get into later. In our Custom Shop, a lot of people send in putters and have us cut them down. One good option for that is Opti Vibe weights down the shaft to change the weight feel of the putter. When it comes to putters, weight is a significant consideration. Cut an inch piece off of an old club you don't want. 340 is the headweight. I haven't tried the powder in the shaft method but it sounds ok. If you don't mind spending a hundred bucks or so, you can h... Dave, Scotty measures his putter lengths from the top of the grip down to the bottom of the "sweet spot". Too much weight in the shaft will also move the sweet spot towards the heel. You can even add some to the shaft of a putter to keep it off of your clubhead. Go for it but like others said check and correct your swingweight or the balance and feel wonât be the same. Distance control on putts is one of the two major issues golfers have with puttingâ¦the other being proper aim. The effect is my putter has the same swing weight, but is heavier overall. In addition, Scotty Cameron creates the putter face from the aircraft-grade aluminum for optimal weight distribution and a softer feel. LOFT. In this section, we will share the pros and cons of the Stability putter shaft for your reference. GUIDE: Step 1 - Lay the provided string down on the green about 12 feet away on a fairly flat putting surface. He cut it down to 331/2 inches and restored the playing weight to its original by adding some tungsten powder down the shaft. He even managed to save the original grip. Putter weight is a very difficult thing to get right as it is more of a feel thing, whereas weight in a driver or iron is more dependent on clubhead speed. Newport, RI. If you prefer a heavy style, this could work. **I think you have good suggestions in previous posts how to add weight to your putter head. Yes, you can trim down a belly style to a normal (33-35â) but keep in mind that things will change on your club when you do so. If you are between sizes, such as 34¼ inches, for example, a fitter easily can trim the shaft, re-grip the club and make it perfect for you. The putter may feel lighter and you will need some practice to get used to the new feel. I strongly doubt I can get it up anywhere near 450 grams, but as much more and still retain the original putter is good. Remember, though, that the shaftâs weight depends on its length as well as its material. For example, take a putter head that weighs 350 grams, add the shaft â 70 to 100 grams, and then a grip that weighs roughly 65 grams. Once you get that, use a small sized cork and jam it down the shaft. I don't know the head weight of the Cleveland putter, but I believe the standard head weight for a 34-35" stock putter would be around 330grams. More sharing options... Another vote for weight down the shaft. Nobody makes golf clubs the way we do. I mostly ask because i just added heavier weights to mine thinking it âneededâ them since it was an inch cut down when i got it, i purchased several weights( from âjust enoughâ +5g, to way more up to +40g) that fit and ended up not using any of them, they made the putter feel worse. Hi All, If you cut a putter down it changes the swing weight. The only putter shafts I see are too short. And then plan the math > how much/where (putter head , lead powder down the shaft - combo of those, etc). The weight of the Tank Cruiser is 600 grams and the Versa 7cs is now the same. In putters itâs no big deal. Lean Lock Putting. Well, here is where you need to be creative. Battle Ready Putters come standard with a stock head weight that's dependent upon the model and hosel you choose. How long has it been since the change, and are you putting better? Are counterweights in the grip? Is there an in-between weight you can use? Gluing Weights. Can you cut down a putter shaft without loss of balance? Sometimes, this is just a matter of the putter being longer than standard â say, 38 inches instead of 35. Also that the fact that this is an ultra stiff shaft, therefore less flex and virtually no twisting as a putter stroke is only like a 10 inch backswing. I ordered three of each of these weights 20g,16g, and 12g. If you know the putter SW that suits you, IMO best to check SW before using epoxy. I'm wondering if there is any way to add a considerable amount of weight to the clubhead. Tip Diameter â 0.370â³ â Butt Diameter â 0.600â³. It seems like the shaft is at least 1/2 full. #1. He cut it down to 331/2 inches and restored the playing weight to its original by adding some tungsten powder down the shaft. Shaft Pattern â Double Bend Offset Stepped & Hand â Right Hand. Now cut an inch off to reduce the putter to 34 inches and refit the same grip. Just to add another 'dimension' to this interesting topic conversation.... I also much prefer heavy putters but also prefer to play with 'blade' li... Hang it upside down for a day. This new putter technology was designed by the guys at GolfScienceTechnology.com . The extra length effectively moves the putterâs balance point up the shaft, closer to the hands. While swing weight isnt as big a factor with putters, if shaft is being shortened an inch or two, there will be a significant change in SW, that can be offset by adding tip weights. It will definitely feel lighter. Best Putter Shafts Quick Features. October 31, 2011 at 07:40 PM. If the putter is already too upright then some of this left effect will be improved by the lie and loft thing. Methods. I donât like adding weight down the shaft for the sake of weight, especially in swinging clubs. It helps if you know the raw weight of your putter head. (I always remove the head and weight it and then add the plugs before I reinstall the shaft.) If you want a quicker method, measure and add increments of loose powder (like tungsten powder) down the shaft until you get the desired feel. In this day and ⦠1. Cleaned the putter and put little stripes of leadtape in to account for the missing weight and make sure the end result will be D4. One of the issues with an early Anser with adding weight down the shaft is a lot of those putters the shaft is swedged in. The lighter the shaft, the heavier the swingweight. The only reason to add lead tape to your putter is to add swingweight or counterbalance the weight by adding it under the grip. I hate lead tape on the sole so I got the route to have lead powder put down the shaft and cork it. These weights required a 1/2" bit. Using Tungsten Powder will give you more weight for the mass. 2 grams of headweight equals 1 swingweight point, so to get the 6 points back, add 12 grams of weight to the head. Lastly, on the bottom of the putter, four 1/2 oz weights will be added. 20g weights are the standard for a 33" SC putter and it's what they are using in their new Cameron & Crown 33" putters. Putting some tungsten powder into the shaft or adding some lead tape can help in restoring the lost weight. After about 2 days I was ready to sand it down (by hand) and give it it's final shape. Unless the putter has weights or can be milled to 370g which is even better. 1 - It's been quite a while - a year or two. But I'm putting better due to a grip and technique change. I can now swing firmer and still maintain m... At a total weight of 125 grams this grip gives a subtle counterbalanced feel to help stabilize the hands. Another vote for weight down the shaft. The head weighs in the range of 330 grams, so adding 30 down the shaft is nothing and won't shift the CG en... And it is based around the theory of the adjustability of the putter shaft in relation to distance control with putts. Location. Finally, with some drivers nearing the limit on moment of inertia, it is important to realize cutting down the shaft and adding weight to ⦠I've changed the weight of my old 2 ball by adding weight inside the cavity and down the shaft too, both gave good improvements for me. Can you cut down a putter shaft without loss of balance? If you are already a left aimer then it will increase this problem. So I stuck it in the head of the putter ' this was an extra heavy head designed for use with a long belly putter shaft ' but I put a regular length putter shaft in. One strip of lead tape at the bottom, press it real hard so it flattens out nice and then add some weight down the shaft with tungsten. Also a ligh... If you're just looking to increase the overall weight of your putter you can add dual density lead tape to the head until you get to the weight you want. Take a standard putter of 35-inches with a head weight of 330 grams and a D4 swingweight. You can put about 10 grams of weight in the shaft before you move the sweet spot. Test the swing weight of your putter before you cut it down, then test it again afterwards. We take a 34-inch or a 35-inch putter and make it a 33-inch putter by balancing it correctly with the right sole weights. Based on the weights of the parts, again assuming the shaft weight of 120g, then I do think the additional 30-35 grams of counterweight is needed to get the swingweight down to the swingweight of the shorter putter, even with the heavier putter grip on the longer build. Yes, put the weight back if you want the swingweight the same. When it comes to putters, weight is a significant consideration. Now, youâve seen a basic overview of both of these shafts, itâs time to break it down. The extra length effectively moves the putterâs balance point up the shaft, closer to the hands. The same marking with the painters tape is used with the 3/4 oz weights. By adding a PXG Weight Kit to your order, you may adjust the head weight of your putter down by at least -15g or up by at least +20g. Since this powder is heavier than lead it doesn't take as much to get the weight correct. Not as easy to adjust a putter that is too swingweight heavy. Add tungsten powder to the scale until it again matches the original swing weight. Than I re-did the epoxy job with 24 hour epoxy (easier to work with and smoother looking) cavity by cavity. If this were my putter, since I don't mind the look of lead tape, I would cut down the 33" to whatever length you think will be best (cut slowly, you can always cut more off later) and see how you like the feel. The same putter head was used for each test. The thing is in mint condition and there's nothing keeping me from buying except that the putter is a bit too long for me. Adding weight near the grip may give you a more comfortable feel. what you say is true if it is heel shaft biased with lots of toe hang to start with. I changed the weight of my TM spider the day after buying it, as it has weight ports it was a very simple job to do. I had my Scotty cut down to 33. [quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1320237248' post='3749861'] Another vote for weight down the shaft. The head weighs in the range of 330 grams, so... I know lead tape and the such, but I imagine I would need close to 100 grams added to the Anser 2i (guessing on it's mass). I have been told you have to be careful adding too much lead powder since it may change the feel of the putter. I plan on putting the same shaft in this, I'm just debating on moving from an 85x to 95x for the iron. It will disrupt the natural alignment of your strokes. Place ⦠The thing is in mint condition and there's nothing keeping me from buying except that the putter is a bit too long for me. We only add one shaft band per putter order. Someone said in a recent post on here you should add 10 grams to the putter head for each inch you take off the shaft to mantain the swing weight. I increased the weight on my putter but also added counterweight by getting a heavier grip. Actual weight measured with precision scale: 20g = 20.1g 16g = 16.1g 12g = 12.5g For installation, they are much nicer than the golf works style lead butt weights. Period.®. If you only added to the head, then the swing weight will increase and make the head feel heavier. As to the effect on your putting, only you can r... I could do a thread on that by itself. Cleaned the putter and put little stripes of leadtape in to account for the missing weight and make sure the end result will be D4. After about 2 days I was ready to sand it down (by hand) and give it it's final shape. I was using a Superstroke grip but switched to a Golf Pride tour SNSR 140cc grip which is about 120g. Sometimes, this is just a matter of the putter being longer than standard â say, 38 inches instead of 35. Golfworks V golf grip remover - Grip Saver Tool. I'm amazed at how much of a difference the feel is with all the sand in the shaft. No need to send it in. What kind of putter and how much weight do you âneedâ to add. You don't have to pull the heads to use powder. Simply fold back the lip on the grip and slide the tool underneath. yeah 340 is head weight... to see how much extra weight you might like, tape some nickels to the hosel (up high where the lead/tungsten would go, w... Shaft bands are applied free of charge and their placement along with any existing bands is subject to Scotty's discretion. Unfortunately it will cost you an additional $40 to modify the putter, assuming you only buy 1 set of weights. A good custom fitter can reveal exactly how long your putter should be. The only thing I don't like is that it feels a little long and harder to control. Fortunately Taylor Made sells heavier weights ($10 each) that can be screwed into the sole of the putter along with their special 3-pin tool ($20). -Add 18 grams of weight to the head, either by lead tape, tungsten powder down the shaft, or hotmelt in the head. Length â 35 Inches. [quote name='blindfth' timestamp='1320276329' post='3752131'] I was thinking that also. I would like to know a machine shop around Orange county wh... The trend in putter design is to offer the customer more options, moving in the direction of shorter shaft lengths and heavier putter head weighting. A newly engineered putter shaft with a softer section located 5â from the tip, intently designed to enhance feel, increase stability and tighten dispersion. You can compensate by adding weight to the head via removable, heavier weights like the newer scotty's and some models of odyssey's or you can add lead tape or tungsten powder and a plug down the shaft. There's a lot of putters today that allow you to add weight - the Wishon Smoooth 6 and 7 have weight cavity ports. As a result, you must purchase a putter with the appropriate weight. The putter had a factory weight of 366 grams, and a weight of 316 grams with the standard factory weights removed. Then 20 more. By adding an internal hosel (added head weight of 5, 10, or 20 grams) to a SeeMore Putter at the time of order, it enables us to make adjustments to the loft/lie specs at any time. Adding weight to a putter is fine, but adding weight to the right spot is more important to the feel. This will make the club feel much lighter to swing, which may cause problems. Return Policy. Quote Titleist 915 10.5 If you are going to cut a putter down and want to keep the same swingweight, you would add weight to the head, not the grip. Putter Length to Weight Recommendations ... so please take that into account when changing shaft lengths. The Series 99 was developed in collaboration with PGA Tour professionals to deliver a better feeling Anser style putter for tour use. The putter may feel lighter and you will need some practice to get used to the new feel. Product Details âº. If you aim right then shortening should help with more leftward aim. Everything matters, from the head weight to the shaft weight. To bring the swing weight back up there are 2 ways of doing it: -Install an ultralight grip, which may not bring the weight all the way back up. So I added some sand down the shaft. First off, trimming your putter will adjust the swing weight and make it a lot heavier than it feels now. The grip is 285 grams lighter than the head and is approximately 35 grams lighter than the weight of the shaft. Adding just a little Tungsten Powder down the shaft as far as the shaft is inserted in the head would be adding weight to the head. By positioning the weight directly under and a half-inch away from the shaft, the hands can feel the position of the putter face.